Ep. 119: Behind the Screams with Friday Night Frights

Hey, y'all. It's me, Tara Strong, aka Miss Minutes for Bama Geeks. I hope you're ready to watch, and if you don't, I will have to prune you. Stay on your sacred timeline. And welcome in. We missed it. Yeah, I don't know. Everybody's muted during the intro, so we can't hear anybody. Well, good Sunday evening. We are the Bama Geeks minus one. I'm Brock and that's Jessica's usually over there, but that's Bo this time. Jess is down there. Kevin and his soon to be Mrs. They are enjoying an evening performance at the theater tonight. So I hope they're having fun. But we've got a really, really great group of people that we love dearly. We have when they're going to be on a couple of minutes, they're running late. So, but we have the crew from Friday night frights. That's a watch FNF.com. Go to that. And that takes you to your link tree, correct? Or your, no, that takes it. It takes you directly to the channel. Fantastic. Okay. Well, you know them as Dr. William Murder Me and Roadkill and Curse. Curse? Yeah. Nurse Connie Lingus. This is, for the first time ever, out of makeup, out of character, we have Barry Perkins Jr., Joe Justice, and Amanda Brown. Yay! Thank you guys so much for being with us tonight. Thanks for having us. This is wild. We were talking earlier. I feel totally naked without the willy to get up on right now. And for those that don't know, that is Alabama for naked. Naked. Naked. Naked. I think that guy is the beginning of hide and creep. Which, when shown by Friday Night Fries, was censored in the right way. It was. I did. Willy over the willy. That's how it happened. That was my edit. It was perfect edit. Absolutely. So we definitely want to welcome everybody into the chat. If you're watching live, go ahead and toss out questions, toss out comments. We're here to have a great interactive time tonight. We're so thrilled that you could join us live. 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We'll let you guys answer that one. Is it just because they're my friends asking questions you're going to make me answer? Okay. Well, personal favorite. I really loved chokeslamming Joe to the ground. That was a really fun moment for me. it was pretty awesome yeah I wanted to bring that up I enjoyed Connie going mama bear over yeah I enjoyed that very much so she was definitely in mama bear she was definitely in mama bear mode I mean that was a side of Connie that was a little unexpected for us that's what I was going for I wanted it to be just way different than anything else yeah You've seen from her. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Honestly, same episode, but the flying scene, I pushed for that so hard because I felt like that was really the best way for us to go out was for us to do something else that spooky people do on Halloween, why not fly on brooms and just fly off into the moon because it kind of leaves the door open for other venues too if we decide to come back. I like that wink that Joe gave. I had something in my eye. My favorite part of season four was the opportunity I had to branch out and take on another role. And it was kind of surreal, especially when interacting with myself. Because as being both Victor and Roadkill going back and forth, it was kind of schizophrenic for a moment. I know there's got to be an outtake where Victor spoke as roadkill or vice versa. I'm sure that had to happen, right? Yeah, it happened quite a few times. I have to dig that up, but yeah. Had to remember which character. Oh, I'm playing this one right now. I actually did that in the table read a couple times before we even started. I want to say, what was the book you're reading when the fly attacks you? I want to say, was it something about directing or something like that? That was one of them little meta things. I was hoping somebody caught that. I love that. It was about directing actors. Okay, I saw directing on part of it. I was like, ah. It was a book about directing actors and that was originally what Kelsey and David had used to sort of light, you know, they were doing test lighting for the scene and that was a book they used and they had sent me some shots and I was like, I want to use that book. Yeah. Because it would just be pointed to that moment. Speaking of that same scene though, when he did it, so we had filmed it. That was, I directed that scene, which was so weird. Like I fully directed that scene and we did about about i would say about five takes i don't know what language that was i just said we did about five takes of that scene and the last time is when you took the book and whacked it on your leg and i said okay that's it that's what we're using because that's perfect like because the rest of the times it was like just flipping it off or whatever and i was like it just did not feel right and then He took that book and smacked it on his leg, and it took everything in me to not bust out laughing behind camera. That's perfect. That's what it was. That's what that scene needed. Improv! Well, as we know that you guys have done four seasons, what did the earliest version of Friday Night Frights look like? What's changed over the course of four seasons? Well, I can tell you for sure the first season looked like crap. He has some good movies, though. Spoiler alert. Season two was a little more developed. It hadn't quite found our edge yet. I mean, I had with bringing these two on, of course, in season two. But we really hit our stride right towards the end of season three, running into season four. And removing... removing the films out of season four, what gave us the ability to run. Yeah. Right. And just because you saw more of the characters as a whole, instead of just pieces of. Yeah. Instead of the, just the filler between, you know, the, between the movies, the, the movies coming in there. So yeah, the scene fillers. Yeah. Yeah, it was definitely more of like, and it was, I think it was a natural progression to the way that it ended up going because, you know, we developed more dialogue. I know with Garen writing our scripts and everything, we had a lot more character development with a lot of the supporting cast even. in season three, leading into season four, it was just a natural progression for us to go into this kind of a Munsters, Addams Family style storytelling. For one, to kind of bring back that old nostalgic TV shows that we grew up, you know, I know reruns and stuff we used to watch a lot of, but like, I mean, we really grew up watching these shows on TV and we really wanted to kind of reflect that, especially during this time of year, because you don't have the Halloween specials much anymore. And we really kind of wanted to bring that back with this season. Yeah. That's what I liked about also like later on, this is the, I don't know if this is the intention, but the vibe I got, especially like with the door and everything, it felt very reminiscent of like Peewee's playhouse kind of like, yeah, that was intentional. Okay. Cause I, I know when, when, when season two came along and Joe asked us to kind of step in as the host, you know, that was like, well, this show's going to work if we make it like a, Modge podge of Peewee and Elvira. And, you know, as we've kind of grown into these past couple of seasons, there's been a little bit of earnest in there too. It just, I don't know. It just kind of flows more naturally that way. Yeah. Being able to work in the stunts in season four, that added another layer. Yeah. To the characters as well. It really did. Yeah. I was going to say that this is a little added, you know, like you said, all these different things of your characters that we had never seen, you know, in previous seasons kind of coming, you know, to the forefront, you know, and things that had developed with this with the characters over the season. Yeah. Mm hmm. Speaking of previous seasons, there was a line in season two where Nurse Connie brings in Roadkill and obviously Willie says, oh, he'll work perfectly. He's just the dead skunk at this point. Well, there's reason because we find out in season four that Willie is a were-skunk. He's not just a werewolf. Right, right. Spoiler alert. Well, you know, i'd say yeah there's only there's only been like yeah i don't know four thousand people that have watched it but um but the the reveal of the where scott yeah if you don't realize that that's a where scott i mean there's just like a little blip you've got to really look and catch it i saw yeah i saw the tail yeah yep And that was another thing I really wanted to tell. I was like, you know what? You never see a werewolf with a tail. So I was like, you know what? No, no, no, no. This will work. I've got the white stripe. He's got to be a skunk. He's got to be a skunk. There's no other reason. Why would he choose roadkill as roadkill if the skunk's not going to work? I was going to say the hairdo, you know, the black with the white, you know, stripe going down the middle. I was like, okay, all right. Well, all this makes, you know, kind of ties it all together. Yeah. And really, I mean, like the characters of Willie and Connie, they're shapeshifters as is. Like they're literally the embodiment, I feel, of everything Halloween. They're vampires, witches, werewolves, monsters, dead people. Like they're everything that make the kooky side of Halloween fun. Mm-hmm. You never know. Future episodes, we may turn into pumpkins. Okay. Try not to put everything into a box. Willie turns into a bat in season three. Oh, I thought we put that one in there. Oh, man. Yeah. We talked about with the change, like with Connie, like the, the, the intense lines, like the, what you went by, I said, mama bear mode. That was, I was like, I like, you know, you're Connie's always the, you're the happy Joyville, but like there for a minute, it's like, Oh, this is serious. Oh yeah. Yes. This is. And I really, I want those like more intense lines on the makeup for that. Cause I really wanted to, because Willie has obviously a lot more line work on his, on his being. in general. And so I was just like, I really kind of want to embody that to make it look, really tie our characters together more. But I also just wanted her to be just this like freaky, like just like a monster. Like you're like, what is actually happening here? Because like, we're not just like a vampire. We're not just, you know, like little undead things. Like we really don't know what you're in for. Yeah. Yeah. It looked intense. That was the word I would best describe it. It was intense. Like I was like, this was like, so I was like, Oh, Oh yeah. We also didn't want it to be too predictable. Yeah. It definitely wasn't. No, no. I can say that for sure. It definitely was not predictable. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, as, as Bo had mentioned in the chat, yeah, definitely get your questions in. We're definitely gonna, uh, get those, uh, Taylor. Yeah. tony is single amanda is not i'm sorry everybody everything probably taylor also wants to know to get ready yeah how long does it take you each episode to get ready do you want me to give this answer yeah because you timed us at one point it's roughly Oh, wow. Okay. I thought it was longer than that. I thought it was longer than that, too. I was like... I give this like an hour. Let me put it this way. If there's no distractions and they're actually focused on getting ready, it's forty-six minutes. We have a lot of distractions. We distract each other a lot. We listen to a lot of the same music when we're getting ready. Sleep Token or Ghost. We had a whole My Chemical Romance day. Or they can't decide on what playlist they want and they're sitting there scrolling for fifteen minutes trying to find the right playlist to get set in that mood. That's why it takes an hour. I would probably agree with that because for some reason, Willie's hair always took me the longest because back in seasons two and three, that was my real hair. This season, I had a really good friend of mine who does theater wigs locally here at Lorca. Yeah, full on wig. Yeah. Who knew? Laura Kay is amazing. She works with a local theater company, Virginia Center Theater. She's done stuff for Red Mountain and a lot of other local theaters here in town. I'm plugging the heck out of her because she's great. I'd never been fitted for a wig like that, but she slicked all my hair back and drew my hairline out and then Two months later, I have this wig that looks a lot like my hair. And I was like, this is crazy. Yeah. Because she even went in. I mean, it's just wild. But that wig alone saved me probably thirty minutes getting ready. When I was using my real hair, I would slick everything back. I would glue in the little white triangle piece that goes right here in the front. Then I'd flip it all forward, take it, tease it back, stick it back up and get it going. And yeah, It was a very intensive process. Yeah. I mean, it was very, you know, I mean, he's, he's kind of, I really loved his mad scientist hair. It was my, I dug it, but the, the sleek hair, I guess is okay. I feel like the sleek hair gives us, gives Willie a more marketable look now. Like I could see like spirit Halloween, having a wig costume ordeal set up for that one year where you got a bunch of little Willie's running around here and a little he's running around. Maybe even a little road. Friday night brights the costume. Never want to bump Elvira out of the top marketing. That's right. We could maybe be the number two selling costume of all time. Looking back at season four, I'm sure that a lot of shows have a, have a kind of like a first day that kind of goes really, really terribly wrong. Was there any day like that during the season for you guys? during this season specifically no well i mean we had a couple of bumps in the road but i can't really think of like there wasn't anything that stood out yeah nothing that's good over this season that was just well here we go having the team that we had yeah it helped everything run smooth that's good yeah we've got an amazing team working on the show um Season two, however, was something else. Season two was rough. We were talking about this earlier with our crew. we had slotted five days to film season two uh somehow we lost a day we ended up with three days and one of those days we didn't have power at all so we're running off of the generator and a car we will yeah my car i i blew a fuse in my car because we were using my car to run the lights for I was like, you mean I busted a fuse in my car? My St. Clair County came out real quick during that season. Several times. Several times in season two. I think I lost my mind. It was rough. With our new crew that we have that's done the last two seasons, it's been It's been really good. It's been very smooth. I feel like a lot more organized. We're a lot more productive each time that we film. We're a lot more conscious of what we're doing in our time. Yeah, that was because of Lori. If it wasn't for Lori, we wouldn't have had the organization. She was our savior and our saint. That's great. She tolerated a lot and kept going. She was a trooper. How big is the behind-the-scenes team? There was, including us, I want to say it's roughly between seven and ten. Okay. Yeah, that's including all the editing folks and all that. Yeah, including everybody. Okay. All right. And you said in season two you were down to three filming days for the entire season? Well, yeah, literally we were down to two. Oh. Oh, wow. And we had to get down the intros and outros for all the films. I mean, it was only four episodes. Yeah. Five. No, we had five because there's one missing episode that nobody knows about that I might re-release. I mean, I kind of stick it out there to see if anybody watches it. on Facebook only because I can't put it out on YouTube because of the film I put in it. Amanda looks confused right now. Did I miss something? Did I black out? There's a Christmas episode. Oh, a Christmas one! Oh, wow. That's another thing. The Christmas episode originally was supposed to have a conversation with Willie... grandmother and then his great niece was also supposed to be on that show, but we didn't have the, we didn't have the time for it. So that's why grandmother is in season three and helps them get away because she, she's the one who makes the cookies, honey. It's a lot of fun. And you know, I guess the show now I, I play a lot of other characters doing a lot of other stuff, but in that episode I played Willie and grandmother Agatha and, you know, I kind of wanted that Eddie Murphy feel to it. Yeah. Cause he was a huge impact in my childhood growing up. So, you know, with Friday night frights, I would, I would still love to kind of see some of that more with you where you do see a lot of Willie's other family members, but yeah, I'm playing most of them. I've got the bloody professor, yeah. Well, you know, you've got Granddad and Mother Me. We'll just start a whole other series, The Murder Me's. Yeah, The Murder Me's. It's like The Sopranos, but six feet under. HBO's going to come after me in a minute. Well, two to five days in season two. How long did season four take you guys? All summer. All summer. It was between sixteen and twenty days. Wow. All together. We started in April. No, we didn't. I thought we said in April. Last year we started late. Last year we started in June. For season three? For season three we started in June. Season three we did. Well, that was... We started... Um, cause we were, we started prepping this season. We started prepping the actual filming. Wasn't then. Yeah. We started prepping the season in March or April because we had to build out the entire set. Everything that you see background, the entire, that whole set was built. Yeah. Wow. My hand. Wow. Yeah. And it was really, you had mentioned the door earlier. It was, it was really important for me, for me, I know, like, coming up with a set design, like, it was really important for me to have that kind of Pee Wee Herman-esque door for Willie. Just because, I mean, again, you know, Paul Rubens was such an inspiration on my childhood. What'd you do, bro? I was trying to click off something. My apologies. He said, this is about me now. Yeah, this is a show now. What was those tabs before the show started? I don't know. But I was just super important for me to have that, that Peewee Herman door, but in a Willie style, like, I mean, what, what else would he have other than a coffin with his initials on it? Because he's arrogant. Oh, Doug Vincent. Hello. All my friends together. Great episode. Thanks, Doug. Good to see you. Yeah. Been a while since we've seen you. Um, Taylor also said boo, but I don't know what she's saying boo about. I think that was about Connie's status. Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry, Taylor. Boo. Oh, me. Well, you talk about the door design and all. What's one set design or prop moment you're especially proud of that the audience might not realize took hours or days to pull off? Really? The whole set? It was a great set. It really was. It started as literally just plain foam boards. We carved them out. We painted them. We made moss to stick on it. We spent... days just on building the set and it was really weeks really it was a good bit of time now i will say one of the aha moments was when we were at the creepy con a couple of years ago and we found the wall sconces that we used yeah we were literally right across from from the guy i saw him and i was like We need those. That's what we need. That's perfect. And then the window, the crypt window. That was the most expensive part of the whole thing. Surprisingly. It literally was two inch or was it one inch pink insulation foam? Oh, I mean, I wasn't even talking about the insulation foam. I was talking about the plexiglass. The plexiglass piece, just a regular three by four it ended up being a little over two hundred dollars yeah just for that one piece huh but was it like kind of the thing like for the set you had the the uh the crypt set was the the other neat little elaborate set I see y'all built was the hotel was that a hotel the hotel room for the uh the connection board for the detective was that That was actually a room on our set. We have a trailer that we were using for our set. So the living room of this trailer was our complete set. That's why everything felt so on top of everything because it really was. There's not a whole lot of space there. We had maybe... maybe a foot and a half to walk behind set to get to where we were for everything. So yeah, the entire set, we had to work with like eight by twelve. okay okay yeah and we we made it work we made it work but yeah that's why everything is so tight yeah the detective hotel room was in was just one of the bedrooms inside the trailer speaking of which i want to say i called another one of your little easter eggs i don't know if i didn't scan it but i want to say there was either a cash app or a qr code on there is that for donating to the uh to the production yeah that was uh one of those that was one of the little um yeah little things we added in there. Okay. Cause he's like, this is how they, this is how they're funded. This is. Yeah. Right. Right. That's one thing I left. Connections. Yeah. That was one thing that caught my eye and I started laughing. It's like, look at this random stuff that basically you would find on any social media we posted. This is what he's found and printed out. This is his, uh, connecting the dots with the yarn. Cause he's absolutely insane. Taylor wants to know what was the inspiration for the goth rave? I don't know, Joe, what was that inspiration? The inspiration for the God Brave was basically to have some sort of transition and basically to show that Willie now has all these followers and fans and he has all these, his acolytes. And these are the people that he has summoned to in a way to him. He thinks he's summoned. They actually showed up because they saw it on the news and somebody told them to stay out of Falwell Cemetery. This is where we're going to have a party. You got these nerdy goth ravey kids who are like, you know what? Forget what the news said. Let's go. That's right. Like I said, they're telling us not to go. That gives us every reason. Exactly. They know how people think. So Falwell Cemetery, named after Falwell, Massachusetts from Elvira, Mistress of the Dark? Absolutely. Say it. Absolutely. You got that one, Brock. Elvira, she's a huge inspiration. She's definitely two of mine. See, Brock caught that. He got that. I'm probably not as big of a fan as Barry is, but I got a few Elvira things. It's funny. I never collected the action figures that NECA put out. Yeah. Until one was gifted to me. And then I'm like, I got to have them all. Every single one of them now, which like, I need something else to collect, but. Have you ever seen the salt and pepper shakers? I have. Everybody sends me the Elvira salt and pepper shakers on Facebook every time. You need these. I have to. Or the mouse pad. You know what? To be honest, though, that mouse pad is still the most comfortable mouse pad. I do not have carpal tunnel for that. Oh my. Oh, well, you know, we've seen, you know, the, there it is. Oh, that's funny. That is. Well, I have my little Elvira Lego mini pig right here too. So, Oh, heck yeah. You know what? I have one of those. Thanks. So we know kind of, you know, how Friday Night Frights, how it began and where it's evolved to. So, you know, the characters, Willie, Connie and Roelkeel, I mean, were, did you already kind of have a lock on the personalities or was there a lot of development or things that you kind of, you know, as you went along, as things progressed from where it started as to where it end, you know? Were your personalities locked in, or was there a little bit of self-discovery of the characters as y'all started getting into it and diving into them? Okay, so I guess I'm going to answer that. You start. You've been doing this the longest. So, Willie's character was... I mean, he's been a character I've been messing around with for the past twenty years. The voice didn't come until probably... What is this? Twenty twenty five. I first did him at Aatrox, but he had white hair, fully white hair and just all sticking straight up. But the makeup was generally still kind of the same. The that was like in two thousand three, two thousand four, two thousand five. I want to say is when I started working in the front room at Aatrox and that's when the voice came about and the name. didn't come until that season as well, because I remember this lady walked in and she, I think she was drunk off her gourd. You get that a lot. People, I don't know why they either get drunk or high and decide they want to go to a haunted house. Yeah. It's like a nightmare. She comes to that front room and she's like throwing herself and just saying, woo, look at you. And she, She says, what is your name? And I said, I don't know why. I got real serious. And I said, the name's Dr. William Merton. Then I reached and grabbed her hand and pulled her close to me. And I said, but the ghouls call me Willie. She said, you could be my Fifty Shades of Grey. That was it. That's the name, Willie Merton. We're still in this. And that's kind of how he was born. Um, and he just kind of got more in that realm of like, maybe he could be in the same world as Elvira and Peewee. Yeah. Um, you know, a lot of innuendos in the, in the vocabulary, um, obviously his name's Willie, you know, the, just the verbiage and all, you know, I was like, well, if he's gotta be British, he's gotta be like old world British. So there's a lot of looking back and researching, like, you know, Really rough things that would be considered cuss words back then, you know, just kind of learning that old dialogue and bringing it back and working it into normal conversation and using things like chin wag. Because, you know, that's a British thing, you know, going, you know, I'm really good at going for a very long chin wag. You know, conversation stuff. But I mean, it's really like Willie's character was just kind of developed over the past twenty years into what it is now. And being on Friday Night Frights, I feel like it's kind of made him a little bit more egotistical. He's always been. The fame went to his head. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, kind of, you know, stepping outside and watching that character and be like, OK, he's gone through all these life experiences he lived through the black plague he he's done all these things he's worked with other mad scientists uh you know what what does that look like in in form you know i mean you can make these characters up all day long and just you know giving him those insights it's weird kind of stepping back and looking in on that yeah um But then we started doing a live makeup show at Aatrox in twenty twenty one. Has it been that long? Holy cow. Wow. It was my second. It was my second year. It was my second season at Aatrox. That's wild. And that's why I felt so bad. So, Amanda, we were going back and forth. And I was like, the only way that our horror makeup show at Aatrox is going to work is if. I've got a partner for this because there's no way I can do this all by myself. Realistically, there's a lot of moving parts to this, and this is going to really drive me crazy if I do this. It would be nice to have an assistant. It was originally written to be a rotated thing because we were going to rotate our cast members through, but none of the other makeup team members wanted to do it. They were all like, Amanda, you're it. I was like, okay. My acting experience was... very limited. My improv experience was zero. I stepped into that role, like Barry wrote a script and I was very to the script. And then sometimes he would go off the script and I'd be like, because I didn't know how to do that. And like, I didn't know the character because I was just thrown into it. And I was just very like, Oh, boy. The original direction that I was like... In my head when I wrote Connie, it was... she was this Harley Quinn type, you know, old doctor mood and me, you know what, you know, she was kind of maybe a little bit of a Mrs. Lovett's type thing. And then this is what Amanda's done with it. And I literally could not see Connie any other way. Like she's really, she says she's not had much acting experience, but you really could have fooled the hell out of me. I mean, like I, I did like, two musicals when I was in middle school. I was at Oompa Loompa. My acting experience is very, very limited, but it's always been something that has interested me. And I just kind of I really had to kind of get into like a mindset and really develop the character for myself. Cause that was the only way that I was going to be able to really work with him because he would just fly off the handle so many times. And I was like, I can't just be floundering out there. So it's just, it's just things that have, yeah, it's just Johnny's characteristics. They, they really just kind of, it's things that like feel right. And like, I've developed like her own little backstory. Like she really views Willie as like a father figure. And a lot of times it's one of the big things that happens at the haunt is like, oh, is that your man? I'm like, ew, that's my dad. And Willie's just like, don't call me that. Because like he is just, but like Connie really looks up to him and like really views him as a father figure and that kind of thing. And then she's, and like, I don't see her as like, like innately scary because like her personality is so bright and bubbly and like, you know, and so she takes that nurturing role too. Yeah. That evolution. She's like with roadkill and then with your Beatles and looking for your bugs. And it was, it was like, it's just, she's, she's not innately like scary, but she's, she's creepy. And it's really, it's what she's capable of that makes her scary. really kind of like a horror figure. Right. And that's really what I was going for because like, I just wanted her to be like unassuming. Like, yes. Like if you look at her, she looks a little odd with her scar and she's not quite human colored and like that, but like, she's so unassuming because of her personality and the way that she acts, but deep down insane. Yeah. Well, speaking of figure, Doug wants to know when you're going to get some Friday Night Frights action figures. I've actually been looking into those, and until there's an actual real demand for them, it's not financially feasible, really. There's got to be the demand for it before I can venture into that realm. understood understood he also says he got a contact high a couple of times working at h rocks too so all the airbrush makeup we use yeah and we're just like i think that's a lot of where the writing comes from though too that that the fumes will yeah they'll get them they make such noseberries taste like Shay wants to know, do you have a favorite vintage swear? Since you brought that up. That's you, buddy. Vintage swear. Swear. Oh, vintage swear? Yeah. Your favorite insult or curse word. Oh, that. There's so many. Okay. I didn't know that there was a vast vocabulary. That's probably one of my favorite ones. Blubbering zounder kite. I think you referred to Roadkill as a blubbering blunderbuss. I believe that was another one. Yeah. There were so many. This season, I know there's got to be dialogue of Willie. There was that scene where Willie attacks Roadkill and calls him a roach-infested monster. i don't know what it was i just went off the handle on it it was like a roach infested maggot museum super center i don't know it wasn't the typical fleabag yeah you you went off you went off a lot Impulse control, right? Yeah, impulse control. Impulse control. That's right. That's one thing we discovered. I do not have an impulse control problem. That's the problem. The problem is that you don't have it. Impulse control. Speaking of roadkill, though, when... like Joe had reached out to us to be part of Friday night frights. I told him straight up, I said, well, I mean, you're going to be there too, right? Like this is your show. I don't want to come in and take over just all willy nilly. Um, no, no pun intended there. Um, but you know, you've got to be part of this too, because this is your show, dude. Like I'm not changing hosts on you. And, He was like, well, what did you have in mind? I said, do you want to be a puppet? Well, first thing, Joe, you have to die. I have to kill you. He literally was like, well, how is this going to work? I said, trust me. I know exactly what I want to do. Just trust me. And that first episode of season two, we literally axed him off. Let's back up a second and give props real quick because Brandy Morris. Oh my gosh, yeah. Brandy Morris created roadkill and she did an excellent job. Yeah. She, she has a company that, uh, she makes a lot of like a haunted house themed, um, props and, and masks. Yeah. And costumes like incredible costumes. Look her up on Instagram, Brandy beast. Um, but she is so freaking amazingly talented. Like, um, I literally told her, you know, I reached out to her. I said, well, do you think you could do this? And she'd never done a puppet prior to, and you know, I said, well, I just need him to look adorably gross. And when Joe showed him to us in person, like she sent me a picture of him and I lost it. I was like, this is perfect. Absolutely perfect. This is exactly what I had in mind because it reminded me of those werebears from the eighties. Yeah. And that's really what I kind of had in mind. Didn't want the psychedelic colors. You know, I wanted it to be legit black and white because obviously William and Connie are black and white, but you know, when seeing it in pictures versus seeing roadkill in person on set, it was everything I could have ever asked for. Like it was, she nailed the design for roadkill and, Like, just a disgusting-looking rotten skunk. So anyway, I got killed off and transferred into the corpse of a skunk. We've seen Roadkill in person. He's quite adorable. Yes. So cute. Love him. Disgustingly cute. Outside of Roadkill, do you have any signature props or gags that have become staples over the seasons? The axe. Yeah, Willie's axe. He's kind of fond of his murder weapon, which was made in Ireland. It actually is made in Ireland. It was made from a group of what was it? Rubber Johnnies. That's the name of the company. But they're great. They make a lot of movie props and haunted house props and their stuff looks legit. It's great. And they really did us a number on this because the original acts got lost in shipping. It was coming international and I was so upset about it. But I immediately emailed the guys and within a week they sent out another one and had it coming to us and it was, we had it just in time. Yeah, it was, it was, it was great. But, um, other props and stuff. The brooms from this season, those were cool. He made those. I made the brooms for this season. Connie's theme is obviously more bats and all. Her broom was all bat-themed. Willie's broom is all spider-themed because he weaves the web of chaos. Even the costume this season, I changed up my corset. Oh, yeah. I don't know what the thing's called. It's a man's corset. I reupholstered it to spiderweb themed fabric. So it was, you know, more into that spiderweb family. Right. Yep. Oh, yeah. The capes. We had capes. We also made the capes. He did everything. I just kind of went along for the ride. Was there anything that accidentally found its way onto set and stayed in the series? I know one thing. In season two, there's a little bit of an Easter egg, but you have to look for it. I'm not going to tell you which episode. Okay. There is a Dunkin' coffee cup in the background. It was sort of a tip of the hat to Game of Thrones. Okay. You have to go through and look for it because I'm not going to tell you where it is. If you can find it and screenshot it and send it to me, I might send you something. Okay. I certainly don't mind a rewatch. Well, you know, we know you guys in real life. We know you guys. We've been to conventions with y'all and we're friends with y'all and everything. How different would you say your characters on screen are from you in real life? or differences or similarities? I talk a lot. That's where Willie gets it from. I'm talkative. My mom used to always say that I never met a stranger, which was true. I wouldn't talk to anybody and everybody. If I was left on a street corner somewhere, I would talk to the lamppost. Connie has a lot of really... She has those little one-line zingers. And I don't do them a lot, but I feel like when I do there, they are really good. Yeah. Yeah. And other than that, like, I mean, yeah, just because like, since I had to develop Connie's like personality and everything, I really do feel like it kind of pulled from like something within me and really lets me be like, I don't want to say like an alter ego, but it's just like, another part of my personality that I don't feel like I let express like all the time. It's really, she's kind of more like I am when I'm around like people that I'm really close to. And I don't know what I'm trying to say. She's more familiar. Like I do, I do, I get that. Like the thing that like Amanda has done that has fully impressed me with, with Connie is, is her improv. Like it is, I will throw some really odd curve balls sometimes. And Amanda is able to jump in there and give a great comeback that sometimes will throw me. And I'm like, what the hell did you do? What was that? When I throw Barry off, because usually he's like Barry on it. So whenever I throw something that makes him, flounder. It fills me with a sense of pride. All of the short promos with these two that we did, that was all improv. That's not pre-written promo stuff. It was just them playing off of each other. That's awesome. Who breaks character the most and usually what triggers it? Me? Me? Yeah, it usually is me. Because I'm like, oh, what am I supposed to say at this part? But he's reading the script. It's even worse. It's when I'm not reading the script. When I don't have the script in front of me, it's worse. Yeah, when I was Victor and I'm like, line here, line here. How many takes is this? Seven? Oh, we got a few more. I'll run a joke on set was we're running out of film, but we use SD cards. Joe, you had a, you had a little more responsibility in this, uh, in these last seasons, you know, the dual roles that you were, that you were playing in the series. All right. So yeah, as far as, um, connecting a character to my life, I mean, I'm as much of a smart ass, if not sometimes more than roadkill is. And that gets me into trouble sometimes. Yeah. um but uh as far as victor goes complete one eighty like i i cannot relate to victor as a person at all yeah especially with his weird obsession with his sister he just wanted to see her yeah with just saying that though with the you know the relation to roadkill. Like I knew like he was like, well, what is this? I was like, just be yourself. Like literally roadkill is the. It's literally you in a skunk's body. I mean, really you have Willie who is in his own world and you have Connie who is pretty much the comic relief. And then you've got roadkill who kind of grounds it and sees everything from the audience perspective. So when something happens, he's like, why is this happening? Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, I mean, those three angles work really well for the show, I think, you know, because I try to ground everybody in the chaos. There's all this chaos going on around me and I'm just like trying to hold on. Well, speaking of roadkill, Taylor wants to know what is roadkill's opinion on Alf? That's an odd question to ask because... the reason i say that's an odd question because i um that was my first halloween costume oh my first halloween costume when i was i was roughly about four or five years old i was elf and it was the old you know like trash bag costume i guess yeah yeah just the plastic vinyl yeah the vinyl sheath and the Yeah, the Ben Cooper. Ben Cooper, yeah. Yeah, the Ben Cooper costumes. Yeah, and it was horrible. I remember just sweating under that mask. You were an elf, though. But you felt so cool. Yeah. Yeah, Andrew, you were so cool. But yeah, I loved the elf as a kid. Awesome. Well, is there a moment that went completely off the rails and ended up staying inside one of the episodes? Or were there multiple? We had quite a few moments, especially like the rants and all that would happen. There was a couple that we did that I'm surprised weren't used in the show. or what was, what was aired in the show? Because there were some of them that I thought, well, I was like, well, I thought one take was funnier than that, but you know, it also could have been because of the amount that we give. Cause sometimes when, when you're, when you're in those moments, you kind of, everybody starts laughing really quick. I don't know. There's a lot of times like I've had to, I've had to choke back. laughing and I'm sure I'm sure you know from watching all the footage I'm like yeah I'm making a face and like trying to make sure that nobody can see it on the camera I'm like turning my head weird and you just it just the way the way that Barry will just go off on rants just really it really gets me yeah I'm not surprised It's like this one line in particular that I could think of from this last season that I just took everything in me to hold myself together. And it was when Ted is leaving the crypt and he says, Darlene, I told you that Doc ain't a quack. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that line because I wasn't expecting it. No, it was completely improvised. That was not scripted at all. The look on Willie's face of like... That was full. That was a combo of Barry and Willie. I was like... Did you really just say that? Yeah, I really enjoyed the introduction of the Ted character too. I did enjoy that. And the way he played off of y'all. That was great. Yeah. Ted was a really good asset to the show, I think. I mean, he was that nosy neighbor, kind of like a Mrs. Kravitz type bit. Yeah. Especially with his, y'all raising the devil in here. That was one of the writers, Garen. Yeah. He was played by Garen. Yeah, he wrote himself into every scene. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, speaking of like writing, cause that's, I know that's the, you know, one thing I think, you know, we had a question is, you know, what does your, you know, about the script process and the writing process? I mean, is there a general, you know, storyboard outline or, you know, do you, you have the, you know, we know where we're going. So some things are scripted and then you, of course you have the improv that, that can, you know, factor into those moments too. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we have a solid script that is written out, but a lot of it, we end up using those ideas as bullet points. We do stick to the script a good bit, except especially if there's a lot of dialogue and if it's like a lot of dialogue, heavy scenes. But there are, I'm going to be honest with some of those lines, I was like, I don't remember this but i'm just gonna go right yeah some of it is we just had to say you know basically just stick to this outline yeah and go because it's because you're not going to get it verbatim oh right right right garen's phenomenal um as a screenwriter like absolutely love it but it's really hard having somebody come in from the outside on already established characters with their own personalities and the way that they interact And so it's really hard to capture that as an outside person. And he did a really good job of it. But there's a lot of times it's just kind of like tweaking some of the lines that he has written to say in a way that Connie would say it or how Willie would say it or Or whatever. Right. These are characters that you developed. They're in a sense your babies. I know this person. So we had to take it on as a group project. Right. As far as the writing goes. Especially Laurie was very heavy handed in that too. And that was only because Garen's vision was very imaginative. We had to take what we could and put it within our zero budget. That's great, man. I don't know how they're going to end up in hell on this bed or what's going on here. Maybe we can do this instead because we have no money. So and thinking along those lines with people having to get used to your characters and how to write or, you know, you're working on a zero budget. Is there kind of a kind of an unsung hero behind the scenes that that maybe hasn't gotten, you know, the recognition for some of the incredible things that they've been able to contribute? I'm going to say Joe. Cause really, I mean, truthfully, like the, like he puts up with a lot and dealt with a lot and puts up a lot of money, um, and into this. And, you know, I don't think he gives himself enough credit, but I mean, really like the, this is his show. Like it would not be what it is without his, his dedication and his hard work. And, um, I mean, Joe is one of my best friends, so I'm kind of tooting his horn for him because he's not great. But I mean, really, he has been over backwards to make this show what it is. It hasn't been easy. It's been very stressful. I will admit that. Understandable. Yeah. But all four seasons have been such a fun watch and such a fun product. You guys have all done an excellent job with it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Well, now that, uh, let's see, um, actually let's go back to that kind of writing process and, and behind the scenes stuff. How long, what's a typical, what's a typical day like for you guys, you know, whether you're in season two with, with three or four days, maybe, or, you know, you've got a little bit more time in season four. What's a typical day like? Um, coffee, coffee. It starts with coffee. Lots of coffee, lots of airbrush, overspray, a lot of hurry up and wait. Yeah, a lot of hurry up and wait. A lot of cream paint or black cream paint with black eyeshadow and eyeliner and lipstick. A lot of me telling people to tighten this corset as much as you can yeah i don't want to be able to breathe two hours later i'm like i can't breathe well i know you guys had uh had some nighttime shoots this past time around you know what so like what what time of the day do you normally get started with that stuff usually around three o'clock around the morning oh three p.m okay okay Yeah, but around three p.m., that's when we're putting the touches on the set, making sure things are in certain places where they need to be. And then we can start putting because, you know, they're having to help set up the set. So then we can finally get them to stop sweating long enough to put them in makeup. Yeah. And then try to get everybody out there and make sure that somewhere in there we eat lunch and make sure the lighting's right. And the camera set up where it needs to be. Yeah, because y'all were doing this in summertime, correct? Y'all were doing one of these outdoor scenes, outside scenes in the summertime. So we know how that can be in Alabama. Miserable Alabama heat, humidity, and it was just as hot at night as it was during the day. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'd say that one of the best shots I like from this season is one of the nighttime shots where Victor and Ted are – he's putting Ted under the spell. And, like, that's what I was – the lighting was so good. It looked amazing. Yeah. I was applauding. I mean, I'm no super film critic, but I also can appreciate good cinematography or something. When I look at something, I'm like, that worked great understanding what you guys have to work with, you know. Right. We were trying to do, in that scene, we were trying to do where it was, you know, you could tell it was moonlight, but we weren't completely washed out at the same time. Trying to find that balance in there. Yeah, I like that too, because it also went into a little bit of like Looney Tunes type territory when he was trying to get Ted to repeat everything you said. Oh, yeah. I got a good like Bugs Bunny Daffy Duck feel out of it. I really enjoyed that. Speaking of that possession... I'm an idiot? No, you're an idiot. That whole thing cracked me up. I grew up, obviously, in the late eighties, early nineties, watching all the Halloween specials, but that particular episode where the cookies are a thing and... The green light and green glow, it gives such an R.L. Stine goosebumps. Or are you afraid of the dark moment? When we went back and watched it, I was like, oh man, this is exactly what we needed. This is great. It's so stupid that it works. Speaking of the possession cookies, that got me one of my best laughs was when Victor rings the doorbell and then he comes to this realization that he's going to break it. This film can only be broken by us. That was good. talk about production technical improvements over the seasons. What are some things you guys have been able to add season three, season four, that you didn't have at your disposal, maybe in season two, the CGI stuff. Yeah. Season four, especially in the effects of the magic stuff that we did. I feel like they got so much better this season. Yeah. Like the having great cinematography and lighting. Yeah. Hmm. Um, thanks to David. So if you, if you didn't have the zero budget, uh, what's, uh, if you had, uh, some more money pouring into it, what's some of the improvements that you would make behind the scenes? I would, how much of a budget we're talking? I got a dollar. Yeah, you got that dollar seven there floating around. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Invest. Invest. The last of the petty cash. That's right. See your money grow into two dollars. But, no, I mean, that's a whole can of worms of a question there. Because I will tell you, if we'd had a heck of a lot more money and an unlimited budget, the fly scene between Willie Connie and Roadkill would have put Hocus Pocus to shame. I would have killed to have been able to have that kind of set where you had a full graveyard where we are strung up flying around all that stuff yeah um like just and the effects you know i i really like them but like you know if they could have been a little bit more keen to like bewitched and stuff like that like growing up and watching those kind of things like more on set type stuff rather than like you know obviously we could have did that with especially with last season with season three making things appear and the contract and stuff yeah yeah There was that, but it was like, you know, everybody has to stop what they're doing. Pause. Everybody come in and set everything and then you reset everything. So it was, I don't know. It would have been, I don't know. There's a million things that run through my head of stuff that we could have, you know, really, even having like a little roadkill puppet, like on ALF, how they had the little person in the puppet suit. I would love to have had that for roadkill, especially on things where we're running. That would have been funny. Yeah. Just seeing a little, you'd see Willie, then Connie, and then a little roadkill running. I would have killed for that. Oh, that'd be great. Just a little Benny Hill music. Yeah. That would have fit running across the graveyard, you know? Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. I could, I would have loved to have seen something like that happen, especially when we are running out of the house and season three and you've got all three of us running up and then road kills like, Hey, wait a minute. He's out of breath. Yeah. Well, maybe outside of technical things, technical improvements, what about maybe some different storytelling innovations or techniques that you'd like to experiment with? I would really love to experiment with animation. At some point, I really want to turn this series into an animated series. Oh, that'd be great. Save a lot of time and makeup. Yep. And a lot of effects money because Elvira has even said it herself. You know, she would have loved to have had a cartoon for Elvira because there's so many things you can do with a cartoon and animation that you just, you know, budget wise, you can't do with people, you know, unless you do have a huge budget, you know, but I think it'd be great. was that a cat toy yeah it's a cat toy sorry it wasn't another thing you can turn into well you guys have said uh this season would be the final season but really you know thinking ahead is what is next for you guys what's next for willie and connie and roadkill and I would love to see a feature length movie come out this late. I mean, that way we could tell more of a storyline. But practically, what do we have in the timeline for next year? He's not going to say it. We're working on developing a stage show. Okay. Awesome. Nice. awesome we want to adapt it to a stage show with a live audience yeah oh that'd be so good what i've got written so far for that is it is very much inspired by Pee Wee's original stage show that he did for adults. It is a adult show with a kid theme, but you're the audience is part of it. It's an interactive show. The idea that I've kind of got for this is you have our set for Friday night frights, but the audience is there. And we're literally like, we're filming the show in front of a live studio audience. And, you know, I did have an idea for intermission and, that we're actually showing a horror short movie in the audience that's about fifteen minutes long, so you're getting that horror film thing, but then when you come back in, you know, Willie's trying to finish up the show, and just things go wrong. The whole thing just... But by the end of it, everybody's covered in blood. So Shay, interact as possible. So Shay, just keep that in mind if you're in row one. At that point, it's almost like we're throwing Gallagher in there too. A little bit of Terrifier influence too. I think modern horror and how grotesque David Howard Thornton is with all of it. Like, it's just great. And there's moments where you watch Terrifier and you're like, oh my God. And then at some point there's so much that it's like, oh my God. That's what I would love to see. Cause you don't see that kind of stuff in a, in a live stage show. I think the only time I've ever seen it was, uh, there was a Alice in slasher land stage show where I know we did it theater downtown years ago, but we went through five gallons of blood in one show because we had that much left over. And I was like, well, we're either going to use it or lose it. So, We used the poor girl fell down five times in her last dialogue because there was so much blood on stage. But I think that would be great in a normal show. But there's there's there are some live action theater tricks that you can do to make the audience feel like they are getting drenched in blood when they're really not. You know, it's all about lighting tricks and all that. And I think that, you know, you don't really get that interactive quality in a lot of stage shows nowadays. You know, everything is seen from a distance like Wicked and Death Becomes Her. You have like all this cool stuff that happens. But, you know, you're basically just watching a reenactment of the movie on stage. Like I want people to be part of the show. Bring them in and make them guests for Whack It Like Willie segments and the food section of the show, Lick It Like Lingus. We're literally pulling people from the audience and making them part of the show. Yeah, you're actually getting your money's worth. This is great because I really think, I love hearing this because what y'all were doing with just the show, I think it would translate fantastically to a live audience situation like that. That's great. We've been at conventions with you guys where y'all have done the panels and the fun little workshops and had the interactions and stuff. I think that's definitely scaling it up would be a hoot. Yeah. Yeah. And like, there's just so much you can do. Like, you know, the whack it like Willie segment, you know, that, that, that's a game show, you know, where you, you have your two people that are getting questions asked and whoever loses, gets the ax literally. And I would love to do that on stage where we pull them behind a curtain and then you see Willie take that ax and go at them. And then the curtain gets covered in blood and you never see that person in the audience. The audience is watching it and they're like, well, where'd they go? Is this real? And then of course, at the end, you have the producer coming out who's holding like a body part and be like, willie again like yeah right like you have like those real moments you know a part of the show um that just make it comical you know yeah it's like we're on air in five you know and willie's holding his axe drenched in blood and he's like hello camera you know just those fun moments like that that just make it seem so real Yeah. We have no idea where Jess went. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you, but we can't see you. No feet. I'm still here in spirit. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. My camera went out. Unplug it and plug it back in. over on your right side. That's the basic IT work there. And Taylor said that she'll be behind Shay. He's here to block the blood. Yeah. Did you plug the camera back in? Sorry, I'm looking at her across the room. Turn it off and on again. Did you reboot? Of course, I said, you know, since you guys are Central Alabama based, like if you did the stage show, is there like any particular like stage you would want to start out with here, I guess, in the Birmingham area or anywhere? Like I know you... Yeah, I mean, I've kind of threw some ideas around. There's not any one in particular just yet that I fully agree. So if you have any ideas, please contact us at... I do have a couple of ideas of where, location-wise, where it would work for a great set, just because of, you know, being in part... Oh, she's back. I'm back. Just being part of the local theater scene. There are a couple of locations that I think could work great. I actually just saw a show last night that honestly is probably the weirdest show that I have seen in a very long time called Tooth of Crime. We were supposed to use my goat for that, but she's very pregnant, so we couldn't. Oh, that's why. What? It is a fully immersive show where it is very Mad Max themed. When you go to the show, they have everything blocked off. You're not allowed to go inside the building at all until six forty five when the gate or when the show opens. And then you have somebody who is literally reading you, scanning you as you come through to make sure you're not infected. So you're entering into the compound and every audience member, they have to go through that. There are things that you can interact with through the entire show, you do feel like you're part of that world. More than your experience. Check it out. Seeing that show in that space, this could work for Friday Night Frights Live. Seeing shows like that really got my brain thinking again, this is going to be If we got this together and did it right, it's going to be big. We just got to get some big backers behind it to help get that production started. Let us know. We'll help plug that for sure. We're really good friends with Gary at the Alabama Theater and the Lyric. I don't think so. Yeah. They may not like, but they used to do Rocky horror picture show there. So yeah, maybe sign away. Well, looking over, looking over the last four seasons, what, what's a moment that sticks out in your minds that will really be one of your favorites? the day i died the first time yeah the first time yeah the first time yeah a little american pie in there a little american pie in there a little american pie in there second time was fun too second time was fun too second time was fun too i really enjoyed the second time because i i really enjoyed the second time because i i really enjoyed the second time because i got to do it let's see I think the scene that I had the most fun doing... Okay. Remember the love's for roadkill, not Joe. Anyway. You're next on Connie's hit list. My favorite scene that I think I... I did was when I was trying to distract Victor from watching what Willie was doing when he was trying to fix Ted. And my just long rambling. Do you remember the, was it? It's the Back Bay Bayou Bunny Boutelays. Boom. I decided for some reason to find the most difficult thing in the world to say um and i i really i had to slow down saying it because if i tried to go fast i would just but just that whole thing like just being like a connie's own little world and just yeah being her like I loved I loved doing that and how the camera just get closer yeah I felt like that scene kind of give um um Beakman's World vibes when his assistant would just go off on the thing which found out that was that lady that was in waiting yeah I love her she's great I can't remember what her name is but I think that my most favorite scene was right after we offed Victor. Well, Connie offed Victor. Um, and we're all in our capes because I think that was the most genuine moment that I felt on set in a while. Um, we got a little teary. I fully dropped character. Um, Elena, you back. Yeah, she was great. I fully dropped Willie character and everything that I said on set that to Connie and Roadkill, which honestly, in retrospect, I was saying it to a puppet. When you're in these characters and you're looking at them and you're looking around not only seeing them, but seeing all the people working on the show, the set, the room, the lighting, the camera, all of that stuff. You'll never get that again. Right. You know, you, you have something very, very special and it hit me really hard. And I don't remember exactly what I said, but it was something along, along the lines of like, you know, spending this time with you all has made my black heart swell with pride. Yeah. Truly. I, you know, it's going to get me teary eyed talking about it again, because it was just that moment of, you know, something Willie would say. So, you know, come what may or devil may care as he would say, you know, but I mean, really that is his way of saying that he truly does care about these people and he doesn't want to see it. Yeah. Right. Right. just as much as I don't want to see it end. I think we're at that part where this chapter of the show has to close and move on. That way we can make way for new... That's right. That's right. Verizon. Really, I love what we've done with this. And even if nobody else sees it or really shows the enthusiasm that we have with it, like. when I was a kid, I always wanted to be the male version of Elvira and I, you know, getting to be that for a little bit on television or on YouTube. Right. The crew that we have and what we've done with this show has, you know, I, I could, you know, I always say this, I could die tomorrow and this could be my legacy for it. And I would be perfectly fine with that because it is something that I've really enjoyed doing and I wouldn't want to do it with any other group of people. And it shows it really does show. I mean, don't get too sad. I always get, that's the thing with Barry is a sappy individual. We'll look at you and be like, all right. Well, I'm sure people can still see you in person at conventions. I'm hoping. Maybe. Possibly in the near future. Very good. If we are invited as a guest, by all means, we'll be there. Okay. Gotcha. Fantastic. We'll definitely come see you guys as always. Same. I will say, when we were graciously put by you guys the first time at the con, it was so much fun. Like I know I probably bugged the hell out of y'all with the Mecca, like a high Mecca, honey, hoe bit. No, no, not at all. I felt like, I felt like a dead version of the zombie when I was getting really that day. So it just happened. Kept sticking your head out through the curtains, you know, Mecca, like a high Mecca, honey, hoe. Oh man. Well, um, I, is there anything that we haven't touched on that you guys might want to, you know, just talk about with the show or, or what lies ahead or. Um, I mean, well, Willie said it best, you know, you never know where the show's going to lead to. Well, hell, I don't even know where it leads to. Right. You just never really know what, what's coming with it. Yeah. You know, we, we, We might be on stage. We might be back on camera one day. You never know. You'll have to keep in touch with all of our socials and just follow us and find out. Yep. Absolutely. WatchFNF.com. It's a good place to start, right? Yep. It's a great place to start. And all of our socials are at WatchFNF. Yeah. There you go. All right. And we'll link to it in the description and then the audio version that's going to come out on Wednesday. If you didn't get a chance to check this out live and are driving in your car and you want to listen, it'll be out Wednesday. I look a lot better in audio. That's why I started in radios. Mom said I had a face for radio. I used to work in radio. Yep. So, Bo, Jess, any other questions? No. Once again, I just like to rant and rave. Like I said, it's been a fun experience. Like I said, I knew nothing of you guys before the last couple of years. And I'm so glad it was something that I got to discover. Like you said, it's a slice of nostalgia, which you're keen to. It's a fun. I'm glad you guys did it. I mean, I know. Yeah. Eventually, you want to make something of it, but I'm going to tell you, there's folks out here, and I know some beyond me, like I said, I'm glad it exists. It's one of the things I'm happy to see that's out there. Absolutely. Yes. And I personally am thrilled that you guys are local to us so we can see you. We can visit. Yeah. That's always a treat for us. Yeah. Well, we want to one more time before we ride off into the sunset ourselves, BamaGeeks.com. That's where you can find everything about the podcast and our show and at Bama Geeks everywhere on social media. Again, if you're on Facebook and want to pop into our private community, just search out Bama Geeks Front Porch on Facebook. And of course, again, thank you to Jamie and Mike and Darnie and Jack. We appreciate and love you guys for being here with us for four and a half going. We'll get to five years in the spring. Yeah, hopefully so. Yeah. So we thank you guys. And of course, thank you to everybody in the chat. Chase has come to Brazil. There you go. Roadshow, for sure. It would have to be a dark night for Willie, but... We've got some fans eyeballing us in Ireland, wanting us to come there first. International tour. The Axe Makers. You've got to go visit them. Willie would be at home in Ireland. Well, awesome. We really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you guys on here outside of character. And we loved having you on in character. Anytime y'all want to come back, just let us know. We're always happy to have you. Absolutely. Glad to be here. I'm glad you made time for us. We're very appreciative of it. Thank y'all so much for your time. Thanks for yours as well. Yeah. Thanks for your time. Thanks for your friendship. We love you guys. So, uh, again, Friday night frights, make sure you check it out. Watch FNF.com. If you haven't been able to see any of the shows yet, go back and do yourself a favor. You're really, we'll have a good time with the characters and, And lovely to have Barry Perkins Jr. and Joe Justice and Amanda Brown out of character for the first time ever. First time. Out of character, but always characters, right? Right. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much again. And for, uh, for Kevin who couldn't be with, be on here tonight and for Jess and for Bo, I'm Brock. We are the Bama geeks and we hope to catch you next time. Hey, Barry, why don't you give us, um, why don't you give us Willie's ending line? That's right. All right. Yes. And remember you're never always alone. There's always someone lurking in the shadows. Perfect. Very nice. Very nice. Thank you guys so much. Thanks for joining us. We'll catch you next time.